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Glee "Born This Way" reactions

Collected from various locations, including Tumblr and a few different comms, because I was out late last night after the episode getting someone from the airport but I needs to get my meta on:

God, I don't know, am I the only one who was really into Blaine's goodbye? Not even Somewhere Only We Know, I have to be the only person who thinks that was kind of overacted - and I think Darren has been a fantastic actor up to, maybe I'd buy how tragic it is if I actually knew where the hell Westerville was at this point. But everything after that, the hug, and the look back, and just that very silent but very real confirmation that Blaine knows this is the right thing because he's practically seeing Kurt bloom before his eyes being back in that old space... And "I'll never say goodbye to you" destroyed me. Maybe I'm okay because I know for a fact (yay Tumblr people with spoilers though I cannot reveal my sources) that there's going to be a lot of them at prom and it'll really solidify how close they are.

I did need him to have that actual conversation with Kurt, I needed more togetherness on that front - "I'm all for it but Kurt needs to be safe" just made me twitch thinking about how many people are going to call that Blaine making Kurt's decisions for him, when it's actually really couple-y and supportive, it's just that (like most things with these two, because RM can't write romance if he's trying I guess) the camera hasn't earned that silent communication. There is seriously no point in giving Kurt a boyfriend if that boyfriend doesn't have characterization of his own, but I do trust them to do that next season, there's seriously enough setup and Darren's a solid enough actor and performer (and favored enough by RM) that I think they'll do it. I just need to watch them interact as a couple, because I think more than any other prominent couple on Glee you can see how they would play off each other and function as a unit. I need it to be text. Or I need a sense of background action, Kurt talking about seeing Blaine that weekend, Kurt waiting for a text, whatever.

Can I just say that the whole office confrontation with Karofsky, that was Dalton. The careful but edged diplomacy, the quiet confidence without screaming it, the "prejudice is ignorance" and the verbal dance with Kurt ultimately in complete control of it, I really think it's Dalton and the way Dalton operates that gave him all that and gave him a sense of power and agency without blowing up in Dave's face. And Blaine's statement that Kurt made them a better team was good enough for me to confirm my headcanon that the dancing, the performing off-campus, the willingness to change, are all Kurt's doing and every last one of them approves. Yeah, okay, it's not textual. It's good enough for me. Saying you added to and enhanced the team is the best compliment a Warbler could ever offer.

Or as I said on Tumblr last night:
“You were a great addition to the Warblers. You made us a better team.”
Because before Kurt came, the Warblers had never danced and most of them didn’t smile much. They didn’t perform off-campus or outside competitions, and they didn’t welcome change. They made auditioning such a rigorous process that Blaine became their sole voice, though his charm carried them far - but not quite far enough.

Before Kurt came, Blaine was closed up tight emotionally, hiding his laughter, concealing his vulnerability, working to be the perfect Dalton boy and the one who had it all together. Before Kurt, Blaine didn’t release all the heavy, messy emotions and insecurities he bottled up in him, the ones he only let go when he sang.

Kurt left his mark on Dalton. And you can see on his face as they say goodbye that he never expected over a dozen boys to grow to love and accept him unconditionally, to value the change he brought to their fragile, gilded world.

But they did, and they do.

Notes on other things:

Blaine has the biggest diva crush on Santana and I need them to become friends. Also, for him to figure out she's gay and just be a nonjudgmental support. I think it's easier coming out to people who don't already have one image of you, it'd be helpful.

It is super fucking creepy that Santana would manipulate Brittany that way, that Brittany is able to be manipulated that heavily, and that Santana thinks she loves Brittany when that’s what she’s doing. I'm glad Britt called her on at least one aspect of it in the end, although the delivery in that scene was terrible.

I want to punch Will Schuester in the fucking face. That is not how you get people help, that is the OPPOSITE of how you get people help, triggering and torturing them and acting like they're willfully denying change because this is just PEACHY for them to live with is the fastest way to create resistance and anger and shame, and the fact that she not only got help as a result of his fuckery but was shamed into outing herself to her students in a scene that felt like she was FLASHING HER BREASTS AT WILL, because they haven't conflated her illness with her sexual availability enough, there were FLAMES ON MY FACE. "BUTT CHIN"? That's your big goddamn problem? And you get to tell her how to live her life? A lot of places don't even have job protection for mental illness, you privileged little shit. FUCK YOU, Schuester.

Oh shit, Lauren, that was so fucked up. Like, everything leading up to it was amazing, how she's kind of quietly bitter but also still very upfront and unapologetic about herself, which is a good and realistic balance. How Quinn completely failed to intimidate her. But Quinn didn’t even do anything. And Puck just let her? WTF.

At least she fixed it. Without anyone making her. And that was kind of awesome. Not that it makes Quinn's plot any less goddamn ridiculous... Do you really respect people more after you find out they had plastic surgery? Is Quinn's worth defined by her past ugliness now? Is that somehow less problematic? Can she not be insecure even though she was born pretty because sometimes people just are? What the shit.

And Brad, there is a huge difference between altering your appearance because of societal pressure and taking care of your health, or even altering your appearance, to prevent being unable to function in daily life. How is Quinn changing herself and transferring any different from Kurt’s transfer or Emma’s necessary treatment for OCD if the effect is the same? Not to mention bigger changes like if, say, you have a cleft palate (if I'm spelling that right) or, if we're getting really heavy here, you happen to be transgender. At what point is it okay to "fix" yourself or actively pursue change? At what point do we decide if it's societal pressure or if it's personal dissatisfaction or if you have a right to make things easier for yourself? Glee doesn't know. After-school special, man, fucking delicious.

Like, Glee is well-intentioned and bright and beautiful and it deals with things more than any other show for teens on television and I utterly love it even while it's failing. I really do. I can't actively be mad at it, somehow - yeah, yeah, story of an unintentional Gleek's life. But it does need to understand certain things that it simply does not. And I so, so desperately want it to, because I know if I sat Brad down and was like 'no, seriously, this is how it feels' he'd at least have a debate with me. And that's usually the mark of what earns my respect.



Klaine - A+++++

Kurt’s return - A++++++

Santana - A

Brittana - A- for shit pacing

Rachel - B

Tina - B-, subject to change because I am not a person of color and they probably got that shit all wrong and it was really fucking rushed anyway and why did Mercedes not at least get a line about the weave because HER NATURAL HAIR IS GORGEOUS

Lauren - solid C for being Lauren and for figuring out she was a bitch without anyone telling her so and putting her attitude on her shirt with no one making her do it

Quinn - D+


Emma herself can have a C for the therapist scene even though therapists are never supposed to make promises and can’t prescribe meds after five fucking minutes of conversation without client consent. The rest of it makes me want to burn things.


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Apr. 27th, 2011 03:29 pm (UTC)
I loved the Klaine stuff. I think their body language with each other is so right, I can't get over it. I love how Kurt's a bit "yes, we've agreed that this is true, but can we not talk about my safety as if I can't handle myself" in that convo -- and it's not about Blaine, it's about the whole fucking mess. You can also see that Blaine is so "Kurt would go back if he could" because he doesn't think it'll happen.

And I didn't think the scene was overacted -- has no one seen a 16 year old boy try to make a grand gesture? It's like that, if you're lucky.

And Kurt! God. So together and sexy and brilliant and confident in all this. Dalton was SO GOOD for him. The Barbaravention was brilliant, and I just kept thinking during everything that "after school and on weekends" Blaine had a very happy, probably very assertive boyfriend on his hands.

Is it wrong to say "well, the Wemma situation wasn't as much of a hot mess as it could have been?" But man, I am sick of Schuester's bad choices and the bad writing that follows in their wake.

Also, Santana /Blaine BFF please yes!

And I always LOVE Lauren.

(also, please note, that the costume people on this are glorious. Kurt ALWAYS has a little splash of red on now in the post-Dalton scenes).

Edited at 2011-04-27 03:31 pm (UTC)
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:39 pm (UTC)
How is it that you articulate everything I felt from the episode so much better than I do?


All the Wemma stuff, damn straight.

The Faberry duet, was spectacular, loved it, SOWK, amazing, Kurt, LINSGB amazing, about time we had another Kurt solo. ;)
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:40 pm (UTC)
OMG, how could I forget LINSGB. It was just jaw-dropping.
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:43 pm (UTC)
I keep forgetting it which is unforgivable, it almost goes without saying that it was the most flawless song selection and performance and GUH. I was debating right up to the episode premiere about whether Kurt's theatricality was contained at Dalton, and it was more reined in, but it was never GONE. It's who he is, it's the skin he's most comfortable in, and you could tell Blaine saw that in an instant. And how much Kurt misses it. But you can't kill that in him with a uniform after years of building up the strength to inhabit it, and now he's learned to make it deliberate and purposed and to glow inside it. As he deserves.
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
Yes. And I can just imagine him picking out that song and working on it in front of Blaine, knowing he's going back, and it's just awesome.
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
IKR? And they gave us the entire five minute song? His voice, the acting, the staging of the number, A++++++++++++++++++, just breathtaking!!
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:41 pm (UTC)
WILL SHUESTER IS THE WORST EVER. I hate him so much and I hate that Wemma is end game. Emma deserves so much better.

Glee has really good intentions, but then they just over simplify everything and it just becomes incredibly patronizing. Uuuugh.

lol Idek why I keep watching.
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:41 pm (UTC)
Haha I have the opposite view on Quinn, really.

Though I like it because of the parallel between her emotional state and her physical one.
Coming from a house where all bad emotions are hidden, and how she covers up her pregnancy and pretends nothing bad ever happened + covering up the way you look if you don't like it = the plastic surgery isn't just that, it's what everything Quinn's character represents is.

I liked Wemma. Because of the therapy scene, but also, I liked that Will generally had the correct view(you gotta accept the fact that you have a problem to overcome it.) but then approached it completely wrong because people without OCD just don't understand how hard it is to stop it. I mean. It's a very very realistic reaction imo.
Apr. 27th, 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
I agree with both Wemma and Quinn that it makes sense in a character way, it's sort of fascinating, it's just all the implications that were surrounding both those things that were never addressed and that were oversimplified in the worst possible way.

And so many people try to intervene exactly how Will does, and they wind up hurting people all the worse for it, and alienating them - like it is proven through research that this happens. Here they made it look like he was right not just in saying she needed to confront it, but in how he told her to do so, and that it makes him her savior in some kind of fucked up way. I have told people to get help before, I have flat-out called them cowardly for not doing so, but it was after trying everything else and it certainly wasn't when all my personal issues were tied up in a relationship with them. And it was wrong of me then, too. He should have been called out for it, because every time I hear how in love with himself as an educator he is I want to show him every single thing he's doing wrong if he would just open a book.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:18 pm (UTC)

Let me just say about Will: I was SO GLAD this episode had Will and Emma trying to communicate as friends in stead of rushing into a relationship again, it was hard to disappoint me.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:04 pm (UTC)
I don't think SOWK was overacted either - I think it was sort of Blaine falling apart, after he told Kurt he wanted this for him and he knew it would be okay and then it just HIT HIM. Poor bb looked so sad, and I am SO disappointed we didn't get to see more of them, even if we didn't see the discussion (which I think we really needed to freaking see), just throwing Blaine in the mall scene would have made me feel better.

The changes between the office scene with Dave/Kurt previously and this one were insane. It was totally Dalton, and I wish we would have gotten a more concrete sign that THAT was what he learned in his time at Dalton, for people that can't see that.

I hated what Lauren did, even though I love Lauren, but I gotta give her props for fixing it without anyone telling her to and wearing her shirt like a BAMF.

UGH WEMMA. Will, you are so fail all around. And while I hate how rushed that therapist scene was, I was happy they actually addressed the fact that Emma has a legit problem and it's not all for laughs.

I need Blaine & Santana to be friends like crazy. I might need to write fic about that. Damn.

See, I liked the Quinn thing because it made sense to me because I went through something similar - I didn't get a nose job or change schools, but after I lost some weight one summer and became 'conventionally pretty' - I sure had dreams of swtiching schools and starting over and how it would be wonderful because once you've been with the same kids since sixth grade they're not going to change their perceptions of you overnight. Looking back at 28, I'm sure it wouldn't have been as amazing as I hoped but at 16 it seemed like a pretty great idea. Plus all of the little things peppered through season one ('I slept with Puck because I felt fat that day') - I'm sure it was just a coincidence but it seemed like some ounce of continuity.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:10 pm (UTC)
I just need one Kurt and Blaine scene lampshading some of the headcanon things that get confirmed for me over and over again, there's so much unsaid in everything between them that has never been refuted for me, but that I need confirmed in text just so some people will shut up about it.

Quinn thing made sense enough, it was just...so out of nowhere, and so unprompted and unearned in terms of the weight of what was done to her, and the implications for the whole changing yourself thing were a little messed up. I'd have just framed it way better if they were going there, and I still don't understand why Puck, of all people, was willing to take part in it. He loves Lauren, but this is Quinn. Like, his baby's mother, Quinn. Who he was in love with last year. What happened to that, btw?
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah the Puck thing TOTALLY THREW ME. It would have been nice to have a line where he told Lauren it was too far even for him, just to put it out there how WRONG it was. Because I thought it was Lauren on her own but I forgot he broke in with her.

Exactly on the Klaine stuff - I'm not worried about where they're headed but it would be nice to be a little more explicit so some people get it. LOL.
Apr. 27th, 2011 05:08 pm (UTC)
My feelings were the opposite. I saw Puck and Lauren watching Quinn put up the poster, Lauren going on about how she's the prom Queen personified and seeing how Quinn treated him last year and basically tossed him out when Sam came in, he'd want to change things a little. I can understand breaking into the office with Lauren, they were checking up on Quinn's past but the only thing they found was the transfer record. After that, Lauren was telling the story. She called the school, SHE paid a visit and found the year book and she is the president of the AV club with the ability to create posters that are humiliating. Like the Mercedes thing last week, I doubt very much Puck was involved with going so far. At that point, he was more concerned with Rachel and her lack of self esteem and Jew pride. A scene was necessary I think because I don't believe he'd go that far, Lauren never implicated him in the idea of the poster for Lucy but a scene clarifying that would apparently be too much to ask.
Apr. 27th, 2011 05:11 pm (UTC)
Why does this automatically get screened? Eh whatever.

Very good point, there's no proof whatsoever that Puck was actually involved beyond helping her break in. But it feels like something he should have commented on - I mean all this is going down around his ex-love interest, you think he'd at least have thoughts on it and state them explicitly.

But either this is one of those subtext things Glee does where you don't find out what it all means until weeks and weeks later and wonder if it was intentional (a la this Quinn backstory that feels like it comes out of nowhere for me) or they couldn't be assed to acknowledge the Puck/Quinn history, just like they haven't done so all year since Duets.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:05 pm (UTC)
While I missed te conversation we were supposed to get (and trust me, I do) fact is Brad said every point in a couple of sentences. The point got across and, in the way it was, it might have seen redundant. Mind you, I'm using my general audience voice who is not focused on shipping wars and the like. So, given the episode the conversation would have been about 1 of two things. 1 was about how they feel about the transfer. You could tell this was a talk they've had before by their body language (Kurt had a very "yes dear, I know!" face) as Blaine explained casually where they stood on that. Kurt wants to go back but the safety issue is one that can't be ignored. It was what I expected to hear, but reduced to two lines and lots of body language.

2 talk would have been about where they stood after transfer. Again, they summarized with Blaine saying their schedule and the "I'll never say good bye to you" and using body language to convey the sad part of it all. So I can see why they went economic on that because everything needed to say textually was said. I still would have liked a third moment where it gets confirmed that that's really how it goes now just for closure. That thread felt a little too loose. My choice would have been in the Barbara intervention. Have Blaine dancing with ND and hanging out with everyone, even if it is without lines, to feel this is not really the end of anything romantically. Yes WE know about prom, but GA don't know about it the way we, the online fandom, do.

This episode needed less commercials. XD I think that's why their moments got reduced that way, to save time.

As for Will, didn't like him in this episode at all, he was shouting at Emma and everything, but I cam see some people treating some with illnesses like that. I have clinical depression and my mother treats me like crap when I have episodes. My step fathe yelled at me when I was trying to control myself about how weak I was and how this was BS and I was trying not to jump out of the car while he did that for 20 minutes in a closed space. People don't always know how to deal with mental illness.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, with Will, I get that it's a very real thing that actually happens and if they showed that and also highlighted why it's shitty or made it more ambiguous I'd have felt good about it. The way it was paced, it felt like his confrontation is what led to her getting help and that this was a good thing, when talking to people who are mentally ill in that way has been proven to do a lot more damage and create a lot of internalized self-hatred, maybe even prevents them getting help a lot faster than they would. If there wasn't such a direct link that seemed to make him her savior, I'd have felt way better about it.
Apr. 27th, 2011 06:35 pm (UTC)
While I missed te conversation we were supposed to get (and trust me, I do) fact is Brad said every point in a couple of sentences. The point got across and, in the way it was, it might have seen redundant.

This. I would have liked a discussion, too, but in true Brad style he didn't beat around the bush - it was just put out there and, bam, done. I liked that the issue wasn't ignored and it was indicated that, yes, they have discussed Kurt transferring, and likely more than once, given the tone of their banter. And later with Blaine saying they'll still see each other and Kurt reassuring that their relationship is not over - it was an economical way of confirming to the audience that yes, it's a sad moment, but they're definitely in it for the long haul.

I know people wanted more, but I think Brad's style is more get to the point and put it out there, rather than linger. Which is okay, really. Let Ryan give us our sappy romantic Klaine.
Apr. 27th, 2011 06:59 pm (UTC)
By now I actually know what to expect, Klaine wise, out of the 3 writers. Brad writes Kurt centric episodes featuring Blaine. Expect everything Blaine does to be about Kurt or for Kurt. Screen time will be slightly equal to less than Kurt. Because of this expect the more knowledgeable side of Blaine to come out and Kurt to be vulnerable but brilliant in his own way.

Ian writes 1 primary Klaine scene. We might get snippets of them in the BG, but nothing significant. The moment is a wild card. It can be flirty, them as friends or not even about them at all. He writes them more as equals than Brad. He tends to explore the friendship side of their relationship and the different ways it show. We get to see a snarkier side of the boys when done by Ian.

RM writes them as a couple hands down. It takes a more romantic light when he writes them (hence why I know he'll be doing prom, it's a Klaine date!) He writes the more teenage side of Blaine, a kid just like Kurt who needs him just as much. Kurt ends up taking the reigns when on these episodes (unlike Brad who gives Blaine the reigns, it balances out in the big picture). You could say RM combines the friendship aspect of Ian with the more mature sensibility of Brad and adds a touch of sweetness and cuteness to them as a couple.

Apr. 28th, 2011 05:40 pm (UTC)
Yup, I think that pretty much sums it up. RM is by far my favorite writer for Kurt/Blaine, as my favorite moments for them (as a couple) were in SLS and OS.

I've like the fun friendshippy relationship Ian writes (at times), and I adore the way that Brad seems to reiterate how Kurt is the most important person in the world to Blaine. I feel like I get the most caring from him.

But I kind of think that RM is the only one who really writes for Blaine. As in not for Blaine, who is Kurt's boyfriend, but Blaine who is a character all on his own.
Apr. 28th, 2011 05:34 pm (UTC)
I think I really needed the Kurt/Blaine scene because as soon as Kurt showed up and yelled that he was back my first thought was "Oh. That's it?" I just felt like there should have been much more from his POV. I got that he was happy to be back of course, and I loved that we got a full 5 minute long song but I think a discussion about the whole issue with Blaine (and/or his dad) would have gone such a long way for me. They got their basic point across I think, but the episode in general fell short for me in part because we didn't get something extra pre-transfer.
Apr. 27th, 2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
I like you. You're right a lot.

Love, love, love your Dalton perspective on the office scene. So very true and I never thought of that.
Apr. 27th, 2011 06:36 pm (UTC)
Once again I agree with everything. Excellent analysis.
Apr. 28th, 2011 02:22 am (UTC)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Will racked up some major asshole points. It really pissed me off that he's all, "I'm fixing you now." Among other things, that's not how you fix someone. I also thought it was cool of Emma to pick ginger as her thing she was born with and accepts. I don't know if she accepts having OCD so it wouldn't have been appropriate. Besides, I think the jury is still out on whether OCD sufferers are born, made, or both. I guess it's back to the explanation of Will being his usual dickish self and arranging the exercise to out her.

I spent my middle school years being accused of being transgendered, my high school years being accused of everything else, got the shoving, the death threats, and an attempted gang rape thrown in for good measure. None of the responsible parties ever had some magical turnaround a la Karofsky. I highly doubt the Karofskys of the world a) acknowledge they're bullies, b) think they've done bad things, or c) want to change. On the other hand, I love angry!Santana.

As for Klaine, I thought it was a nice parallel to the surprise musical number at Gap. Plus, Kurt's kicking butt. Maybe he and Sue can shove some stylish boots up Will's.
Apr. 28th, 2011 05:13 am (UTC)
I love how your mind works and I definitely did not think that SOWK was over acted. Blaine was heartbroken, happy for Kurt because he's sweet like that but devastated all the same. I absolutely LOVE how that one on one meeting with Karofsky was pure Dalton. Kurt learned well, after all these are supposed to be the sons of influential people and being groomed to be influential as well. You go Kurt. I'm not even going to say anything about Wemma. meh
Apr. 28th, 2011 12:12 pm (UTC)
I loved the goodbye scene, although I think for me it would have been even more effective if we had seen Kurt/Blaine talk about it beforehand. Not even just how it will affect them as a couple, but just how Kurt was feeling about everything. For an episode that was meant to be all about his return it did seem like they only scratched the surface of what he was going through. The scene with Karofsky was important and I did like it a lot, but other than the 2 lines in the lima bean scene that was the entirety of his transfer story.

And I liked what Blaine said about Kurt being a great member of the team, but it seemed like that was about The Warblers more than it was about Blaine. I think the way the scene was acted made it more emotional, and more about Kurt/Blaine's relationship. But it was a little disheartening that the only thing Blaine said was "I'm sad to see you go" rather matter-of-factly. Not that I wanted more for him in that particular scene, but I just mean that was part of why an extra Kurt/Blaine scene before that would have helped (for both of their characters).

I agree about Brittany/Santana. I do really like them, and I think Brittany feels like more of a legitimate character when she's with Santana, however the fact that she's written the way she is is just inherently creepy.

And yes, Will is such a douche. I wanted to smash something when "DOUCHE" wasn't what was written on his shirt. lol.

Edited at 2011-04-28 12:14 pm (UTC)
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